Michael Calore: Oh, OK.
Lauren Goode: XCX. Sorry.
Michael Calore: XCX.
Lauren Goode: OK. We already sound … I meant to say XCX, just to make that clear. I don’t know … Oh my God, this is really bad. I don’t know if it’s an album or a song. It might be neither.
Michael Calore: But it’s a piece of music by Charlie.
Lauren Goode: It’s called brat. And it references a person who is kind of messy, kind of sloppy kind of parties a lot, but cool.
Michael Calore: All right.
Lauren Goode: Yeah.
Michael Calore: Somebody I want to know.
Lauren Goode: That’s how I understand it. It’s a certain mojo. It’s like you’ve got the thing.
Michael Calore: So exhibiting those qualities would lead you to have a brat summer.
Lauren Goode: Has a positive connotation.
Michael Calore: Got it.
Lauren Goode: Similar to the way that hot girl summer had a moment and it’s like you got sort of zhuzh about you. But it’s funny that you’re recommending this, but you’re not wholly aware of what it is, but you’re embracing.
Michael Calore: Yeah, I’m embracing. I’m waiting for Cool Dad Summer.
Lauren Goode: Yeah. I mean, we can make that a thing.
Michael Calore: OK. Maybe next year.
Lauren Goode: I think cool dads are having their moment.
Michael Calore: Sure.
Lauren Goode: Yeah. Sure.
Michael Calore: Anyway, that’s my recommendation. Embrace the brat summer.
Lauren Goode: Embrace the brat summer. Are you drinking some coconut juice while you’re at it too?
Michael Calore: Fell out of a tree. Yes, I am.
Lauren Goode: OK, yes.
Michael Calore: All right.
Lauren Goode: What is your recommendation?
Michael Calore: I hope I was able to give you the proper context for that.
Lauren Goode: Oh no.
Michael Calore: Yes, I feel good. I feel good.
Lauren Goode: Good, good, good.
Michael Calore: What’s your recommendation?
Lauren Goode: My recommendation is a bit of an archive recommendation because in the several years that you and I have been doing this show, I’m pretty sure I’ve recommended it before, but it’s relevant to the chat we just had with Sandra. It’s a book called The Wave. It’s by Susan Casey. Susan is a journalist. She’s formerly the creative director of Outside Magazine. She has been editor in chief of O magazine, Oprah’s Magazine. She’s written three books, but two in particular I really like. One is called The Devil’s Teeth. That’s about the Farallon Islands and the shark population there.
And The Wave is, it’s mostly about this group of big wave surfers who she follows around. And in particular, Laird Hamilton, who was one of the pioneers of toe in surfing, which is relying on a jet ski to get you the right velocity that you need to surf really, really big waves. But the first part of the book, and once again, I’m recalling it from memory, having read it twice, but it’s been a while, is really this fascinating explainer of large waves, how they work, rogue waves, tsunamis.
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